Mister Family.com ... keeping Northeast PA "family friendly.": Corruption of minors? You decide.

Wednesday, October 25, 2006

Corruption of minors? You decide.

In recent weeks, Gentlemen's Club 10 has set up a MySpace page. For those who are unaware, MySpace is a networking / friends website that is used primarily by teenagers. I believe the club resorted to setting up this page because they were forced to remove their pornographic content from their main website (in order to continue advertising their web address on their signs and billboards).

In the six months that Gentlemen's Club 10 has been open, they have worked hard to attract teenagers to their strip club. They have lowered the entrance age to 18. They are establishing a web presence on MySpace. They are doing everything they can to lure the young people of our area into their club, including hiring at least one teenager to strip at the club.

For this reason, I complained to MySpace about what the club is doing. They reviewed the club's MySpace website and several days ago, they removed it because it violated the MySpace terms of use. In addition to posting address and phone info. (a big MySpace no-no), they also posted partially nude / suggestive / sexually explicit pictures of women stripping. They have also posted a link to a porn website through one of their "slide shows."

Unfortunately, Gentlemen's Club 10 is back to their old tricks. Once they were taken off the web by MySpace, they reposted all of their lewd content. I have submitted an additional complaint to MySpace about this activity. If you are a MySpace user, please voice your displeasure to their complaint department. We must do everything in our power to prevent Gentlemen's Club 10 from drawing our children into their debased manner of living.

One more thing.... unfortunately, several DJ's from 98.5 KRZ are also supporting Gentlemen's Club 10's MySpace presence by linking to their page and encouraging people to go there. Years ago, I used to listen to KRZ, but they are becoming too hypersexualized for my taste and I'm ashamed of them for not giving much thought to the influence they have on the youth of our community.

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Wow. Clear evidence that it is becoming more and more difficult to raise morally strong children in this culture. Radio stations that blare teenage music are promoting strip clubs. Clubs using a kid's website to give them a taste of what's inside. This is where decent culture begins to collapse.

Exceptional post, Mr. F. Excellent work behind the scenes.

By Anonymous, at 10:19 AM
I used to listen to KRZ after work, driving home. they really did become quite dirty after a while. Not a listener now.

By Anonymous, at 10:48 AM
they really want our kids to see that stuff, huh

to answer your question, yest I believe this is corruption of minors

By Anonymous, at 11:56 AM
Thanks, Mr. Family. I'll complain to My Space, too, and suggest readers of this blog contact KRZ's advertisers as well.

By Anonymous, at 12:43 PM
take a good look at my space
.com-- the club ads are mild
in comparision to other ads on that site.

By Anonymous, at 12:54 PM
Hi, Mr. Family! I cannot even begin to express how pleased I am with your fine, exemplary concern, and your wonderful accomplishment concerning that club! This has to be the most unprecendented incredible form of caring and involvement in our area.
"Thank you" does not seem to be enough!

All I can say about that club and KRZ,is that they are groping for income and ratings due to their insufficient sense of business, entertainment qualities, and qualifications. In a word, DESPERATE.

Keep up the great work, Mr. Family! We're with you!

By Anonymous, at 1:59 PM
I didn't read or hear where underage teenagers were dancing at the club? when did this happen?

By Anonymous, at 4:21 PM
PARENTS: where are you? What is wrong with you people? Scalzo's Smut Palace is after your sons and daughters! You parents should be beyond outraged!!!!
Why aren't you rallying, writing letters to the papers, on the talk radio, whatever it takes for you to be heard that you will not tolerate this scummy existence around your kids?????
I can hear you now: 'Oh,no,not my kids. I raised them better than that.' Spare me!!!
That's what the parents said before their really good kids DIED from first-time overdose drug use!
That's what they said when their 12, 13 year olds came home pregnant! Or when they got into the wrong crowd and ended up in jail!
That's what they said when their kids first went off to college and soon ended up as prostitutes or druggies!
Ask about me, what am I doing about it? I've been ranting about this continuously since the first day I heard about it to anybody who will listen! I haven't seen any letters to the paper from you (which I have done), haven't heard of any parents forming a protest rally, nothing!!!!
Go ahead, sit back, let someone else do it, some other parents! Guess what? Without you, you, and you, there are no other parents!
Pic takers and anti-club commenters are doing all we can on this site.
It's the greater majority of you parents and some Christians at that, who are not making yourselves visble or audibly heard!!
Trash me all you want! It's your kids who are really going to be trashed by letting Sleazy Sal sneak into their lives!!! And YOU are doing nothing about it!!!

'Oh, no, not my kids!' yeah, right!!!!
And please, no wisecrack remarks from the goofy section!!

Signed, not a parent

By Anonymous, at 6:04 PM
Here you go again making things up! Their original site had no pornographic material. And Myspace is not primarily teenagers. Bands, Business, artist, clubs, women (like Tila Tequila The most popular girl on myspace, who has made her career from myspace, she has her own site, in which she poses nude, she was just on rolling stone magazine, FHM, and other magazines and many talk shows, On her myspace page she adds new photos everyday, most in skimpy swimsuits or lingerie.) EVERYONE uses it to promote themselves and make new contacts and customers. Once again you are misinforming people. And myspace did not remove the club myspace at your request, it was removed because a fake site for club10 opened, and the club contacted them and asked them to remove it, but myspace removed both, then apologized. And a new Club10 myspace was put up.
Stop lying to people and twisting the truth. Seems to be your new M.O.
No little children are on club10's myspace, nor should ANY little kids be on myspace at all, since it is illegal for a child to have any of their info on line. That is the parents responsibility to govern them, not myspace.
And as for KRZ, maybe it is because adult entertainment is a normal part of our world, and they realize that. Just because you do not like it, and carry on every day, does not mean others feel the same way you do. The DJ's have been to the club, and they love it, they have a good time. and KRZ brought a bus load of 60 people (mostly women) to the club for a night out. And they all had a blast.
Look at Myspace, you will find mostly adults. Not children. Again, you are wrong. big surprise there.

By Anonymous, at 5:53 AM
I am a myspace user. And I sent a complaint, about you. I told them that your e-mails are from an anonymous person who runs a competing club.
And you remain anonymous so they would not know. So they will know you are a liar also.
And there are about 1 million businesses on myspace with addresses and phone numbers, more than 50 of them are local vendors in our area that I know of. Maybe you should report them too, oh wait, Myspace will have the truth about you soon, just like KRZ and all the rest of our local media does already.

By Anonymous, at 6:29 AM
MySpace has my complaint about the club's violations.
to 12:43 p.m,
You have an excellent idea that we should complain to the KRZ advertisers!
That reminded me that boycotting advertisers is a highly effective tried and true method of getting a point across, starting with the biggest accounts. Flood the advertisers with letters, emails, and phone calls. But they must be strongly backed up by boycotting.
Let's do it, people! It works!

By Anonymous, at 9:27 AM
my wife and I just noticed that there are churches and non profit organizations as well as other businesses that have their addresses on my space.com. According to mr family, that is against my space rules. perhaps we should should cut and paste mr family's complaint and list all the churches etc who are violating this policy. and send it to my space after all, mr family fair
is fair. the rules should be enforced against everybody including churches. Thanks mr family
for letting us know the rules.

By Anonymous, at 1:24 PM
I would like to offer my 18 and 19 year old daughters to the Gentlemen's club. It is time they made a living and learn the value of a dollar.

By Anonymous, at 4:42 PM
to 5:53 how dumb do you think people are?
You only rattled on to tell us that your mind is so numb to porn, that you think everybody else can't distinguish it.
You and KRZ should excuse yourselves from referring to that nonsense as "adult" entertainment.
YOU are wrong. NO big surprise there.
It's perverted entertainment. So stop lying to yourself and trying to twisting the truth.

By Anonymous, at 9:05 PM
6:29 so you're telling us that you are a liar AND how dumb you are!

gclub10 violated myspace policies, and that is that. They could care less who the sources are about the complaints.

By Anonymous, at 9:18 PM
Yep, been there, done that with a crude FL radio station. Our e-mails and letters were enough to make top advs. like Disney and Lifetime movies drop out because they didn't want their wholesome names associated with it. Plenty of other advs. followed suit. The station even had to go to court and was fined a couple of million bucks. The FCC had no say in it, but the public did. Eventually the shock jock got fired.
Yep, boycotting is very effective, especially when it is done with group protests in front of more resisitant adv. businesses. Very legal.

By Anonymous, at 3:16 AM
It infuriates me that a certain hot to trot "gent" wasted the police valueable time recently to report his items that were stolen at that smut10 club!
The police meantime could have been on the roads looking out for drunk drivers who could have killed someone!
Glad to see at least the "gent" got some noteriety in the newspaper for all his troubles.

By Anonymous, at 4:31 AM
to 927 am a lot of anonymous complaints aren't going to do any good.

By Anonymous, at 6:37 AM
Who are you going to Boycott? The weekender? A free paper? The radio Station? Which is free to listen too?
Will you Boycott the billboard? Or the other Adult stores and shops that you do not go to now?
There were over 500 people in the club Wednesday night for their event.
And as soon as the advertisers hear were the boycott is coming from (this site) it will not be taken seriously. Because Mr.family is not taken seriously.

By Anonymous, at 7:31 AM
5:53 said, "And myspace did not remove the club myspace at your request, it was removed because a fake site for club10 opened, and the club contacted them and asked them to remove it, but myspace removed both, then apologized. And a new Club10 myspace was put up."

Actually, you are incorrect. MySpace emailed me to let me know that they removed the site because of its content. I will be happy to email you their response and their "thank you for letting us know about the inappropriate content," message.

I still get a kick out of your many "certainties" as to who I am. According to you and your cronies I am all of the following:

a rival club owner
a reverend
a woman
a crazy old man
a young man with nothing to do
a councilman
an owner of a neighboring business

That's more hats than I have closet space for.

By Mr. Family, at 10:05 AM
to mr family-- you will probably not post this-- but
since you complained about the gclub having their address on my space-- what about all the churches, religious organizations etc who are doing the same thing.
Would it be fair to notify my space about them?
perhaps we should and then notify them we got the idea from mr family's site and then give them your email address.

By Anonymous, at 10:11 AM
to mr family, not to mention the space you need in in the closet for your self ( after all you are in the closet) chuckle chuckle

By Anonymous, at 10:13 AM
PT Barnum never said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061025/en_nm/arts_quotations_dc

By Mr. Family, at 10:33 AM
MySpace's biggest issue seems to be Gentlemen's Club 10's partial nudity and obscene content.

I love how you fail to mention that when elaborating on their address.

Again friend, you're missing the big picture.

By Mr. Family, at 10:37 AM
Pardon me, 6:37 and 7:31am, while I knock you on your butts. Ready?

When people of conviction complain to an obnoxious business, they generally do not do it anonymously. They want to be legitimately known and heard, and they will do it with repeated determination.....because they are the consumers that the business depends on.

Think big, pal! Billboads? joke! Smart boycotters go after the big fish. Only an example, the TL itself, the publishers of the free weekender. They can unsubscribe.

One part of boycotting is choosing not to be consumers of the KRZ advertisers. They WILL take that red ink seriously.
The boycott is not coming from this site. It is coming from the public at large.
Few more secrets about boycotting that I am not going to reveal to you.

I'll let you in on a little secret.
Don't waste your time trying to deal with someone who has been there, done that with positive results.

By Anonymous, at 5:14 AM
to 1037 am mr family, you are missing the big picture-
1. There are a lot of businessess and non-profit organizations including churches that post their addresses on my space. If the rules are to be enforced, then enforce them against everyone.
2. There are also other adult businesses in our area with sites on my space.com. Funny how you only pick on one. If your are REALLY concerned about
minors not seeing these things as you claim, then you would also go after the other adult establishments.
But you do not. You are a one trick pony. This makes me wonder about your TRUE motives behind your crusade.
The news media is VERY SUSPICIOUS and DOUBTFUL of your activities which is why you can no longer get any press coverage.
And irrespective of misquoting P. T. Barnum, you are not fooling a lot of people including the news media.
let's not forget all the broken promises you made to your supporters either.

By Anonymous, at 6:42 AM
6.42 i'm very suspicious and doubtful if you have your pants zipped up./ no doubt that your brain isnt reinforced.

By Anonymous, at 1:03 PM
I'm going to explain some things to you non-trusting, hidden identity Mr. Family fan club members.
First of all, you constantly prove that you do not have the ability to separate a person from a cause.
Why? Because you are untrustworthy, so you think other people are not to be trusted in their honest endeavors. Therefore you have no basis to be good judges of character.
Second, you lack the virtues to stand up for what is moral, despite who is behind the Mr. Family pseudo name. Psuedo names are meaningless when good morals are being attacked by a degrading business in a community. The people with good morals voice their resentment without the necesssity of a known representative. We speak individually for ourselves. The Mr. Family website is only our sounding board.
Third, "Mr. Family" is not out to run for public office, or out to win a personality contest, or anything else in that direction. Clearly, for those reasons and more he would need to be publicly known. He could not care less about public adulations. It would be against his nature and defeat his purpose. That is a man with strong character, not cowardice.
Fourth, you continually, by choice, refuse to miss the point of the whole campaign because, very simply, you focus all your attention on your groins!

Be honest with yourselves for once!

By Anonymous, at 8:15 PM
to 815 pm-- what you say can and was said about foley, swaggert, bakker and a whole lot of wolves in sheep's clothing.
A line from the wizard of oz
is " Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
That is what you are doing.
Your holier than thou attitude is so refreshing and original too.

By Anonymous, at 9:57 AM
to anony 8:57 Hurray! You're finally catching on!
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
If you recall the moral of the story between the wizard, Dorothy, the strawman, the tinman, and the lion, the human "wizard" pointed out to them that they already had the virtues and powers they desired within themselves without needing his help.
In contrast, anti-clubbers already know we do not need the "man behind the curtain" to give us morals.
Holier-than-thou? Try on some common sense observation for size.

Thanks but no thanks for your "caring" wolf/sheep analogy. I've been around the block too many times to know if or when I can be bitten or not.

Now go off to see the wizard to find out if he can give you some reality...

By Anonymous, at 3:29 PM
9:57, once again you made comparisons of celebrities who have no relativity towards the case in point, that being, the inability to separate person from cause in the Mr. Family campaign.

You explicity fail to distinguish in your mind that religious folks intents were/are that of worshipping God and not that of a mortal man. God does not catergorize the relgious folks along with the wrong doings of religious leaders.

For or against Foley, his political career was his podium. The personal indiscretions of politicians, although not favorable to the nation, I'll put it this way, undoubtedly there is more that can personally be revealed with the lot of them. So in likely theory, it can be said that the whole nation is being duped by a pack of wolves in sheep's clothing.
The protection for all of this is for each person to hold true to himself in his or her personal beliefs and causes. Not a follower be.

By Anonymous, at 3:48 AM
cool 3/29p!!!! anticlubs come equipped with a heart, a brain, courage....takes us in the place where we want to be.....morality city anywhere usa

By Anonymous, at 3:44 AM
Anon 3:48 You speak of wolves in sheep's clothing, and being duped by them, yet people flock here to follow an Anonymous man, who could have hidden intentions. You do not know, and yet you all beleive his every word.
Because he types what you want to hear, and that is enough for some people. Just like a political leader.

By Anonymous, at 6:21 AM
to 6:21, Seriously, you have a serious learning deficit disorder since you are not able to absorb any of the explanatory statements that were provided. That is verified alone by the fact that you cannot comprehend each anti-club individual involved in this campaign IS an individual! Each one has high morals and good judgement to a different degree and is fully capable of projecting his or her own sound mental abilities to that effect.
Perhaps you can understand it this way: pro-club individuals all follow the one belief system of "ME," my personal pleasures.

By Anonymous, at 9:16 AM
to 348 you just do not get it-- mr family is a person with a cause-- just as the others pointed out--
with an anonymous person-- you just do not know what the real motive is and have no way of knowing or finding out.

By Anonymous, at 12:09 PM
quote 1209 "just as others pointed out" that sounds like you follow others and their motives who you don't even know, besides them not posting any type of credible sources of anti-club information relating to community destruction. So where is your solid basis?
I know me, and I know the motives for my participation in this cause. Satisfied?

By Anonymous, at 11:36 PM
to 1136-- the information on this website is far from credible. All thes articles are written,by persons with an agenda to close the clubs.
There is nothing to present an opposing view-- because mr family will not alow it-
many articles do exist even those written by police department to show that adult clubs do not cause an increase in crime. mr family will not publish them.

By Anonymous, at 12:34 PM
If there is anything Mr. Family is, I would say he is "fair and balanced" to both sides of the issue, for one being he does not exclude the pro-club comments.

Aren't you the same one who has been praising the media and now you say related articles are not credibly written by intelligently educated journalistic sources, for example Phds.?

Answer this please: with drugs and prostitution having a partnership, unquestionably, then what makes you say that "adult" clubs do not cause crime, according to the police?
Considering gclub10 had flambouyantly advertised at least one (to my knowledge) nationally-known prostitute to endorse their club, compounded by the fact that illegal "favors" are available after club hours, then I fail to understand how "adult" clubs do not cause crime.
Taking drugs or not, prostitution with some "dancers," strip clubs are highly fertile grounds to produce criminal activities. It really doesn't take an Einstein to figure that out.

By Anonymous, at 4:38 AM
several police departments issued reports stating adult establishments have not increased crime in their cities/ why doesn'r mr family go to wilkes-barre township and ask them?
I did and they said the three adult establishments
including gclub have not been the sources of any crime. Walmart is a different story.
Now if strip clubs decrease property values, why is there new construction right next to the gclub?

By Anonymous, at 11:54 AM
You evaded the news media question.

The (questionable) police reports you mentioned, were the "adult" establishments acutally in or a very near proximity of their cities?
It seems to me that former NYC mayor Giuliani had some clue that "adult" establishments were not ideal. Or do you think he had nothing better to do with his time than to evict them?

Now sir (or madam), I am a long lifetime resident of WBT. That can go without saying that I am very familiar with the WBT police dept. I will profoundly tell you this about them: they do not casually reveal information for public curiosity. You can count on that.
If you positively believe that nothing sinister has emanated from any of the places you mentioned, then you are being very naive.

My best educated "guess" about the new constrution next to the club is that the property value has lowered, and therefore made it more financially appealing to construct.

By Anonymous, at 11:55 PM
11:54 New studies have shown the "secondary effects" are not true.
Crime does not increase, and property vaules do not decrease due to a strip club. There have been many adult stores in W-B for years, NONE have effected any of the surrounding area or cause a crime increase. But Mr.Family would never tell you that. It ruins his credibility more than he has already himself.

By Anonymous, at 5:52 AM
to 5:52am,
What ever these "new studies" are supposed to be about, did you actually scrutinize the source or did you prefer to take it at face value so that they would conveniently prove your interests?

A while back, studies were put out (noted by a pro-club blogger) by a NJ alliance of strip clubs advocates who denied any claims of "secondary effects" or what ever their claims were. Common sense dictates it would only be natural for the NJ club alliance advocates to deny what they support.
It's pathetic that you limit your intelligence by not comprehending vice leads to more vice concerning your theory of crime and property values. Every action, negative or positive, has a re-action. You know what? Mr. Family didn't tell me that! It's common grade school knowledge.

By Anonymous, at 12:42 PM
NO secondary effects my BUTT!!!!
Who do you JOKERS think you are kidding???? Look in your mirrors at the FOOL!!!!!

By Anonymous, at 4:05 PM
Actually 12:42, that study you speak of, was done WITH law enforcement, and peer reviewed and passed before the courts. All was proven true. Their info came directly from law enforcement. The study proved the ones Mr.Family posted outdated and wrong.
The studies were done Involving numerous Prof. of Criminal laws, and psychologists. Along with several law enforcement agencies. But since the findings were not what anti clubs folks wanted to hear, they claim fraud or question the source. As always. But that is what people like yourself and Mr.Family do when something comes up that you do not like. Ignore it, Claim it is wrong, even when it is spelled out for you.Facts are facts. if you think I am wrong, get on the phone. Call all of the local law enforcement in the valley, ask then if the crime rate has increased around the numerous clubs that have been here for over 15 years. You will not get an answer you want to hear, and you will say they are lying.Facts are facts. Sorry to burst your bubble.

By Anonymous, at 5:25 PM
to 405-- why don't you look in the mirror and get the speck out of your eye before condemning others?

By Anonymous, at 6:35 AM
The FACT remains that you will not find any anti-strip club drug dealers, prostitutes or pedophiles.

By Anonymous, at 10:17 AM
There's just one itty bitty FACT that illiterary club10 neglected to mention. The study was done by SOME of those pros alright, BUT the same also had a special kinky interest in strip clubs.

By Anonymous, at 2:15 PM
to 1017 am " re not find any anti club drug dealers,
prositutes etc, what about the Rev Ted Haggard?

By Anonymous, at 8:47 AM
8:47, Although I am an atheist I find it incredibly disingenuous of pro-clubbers to constantly evoke the names of a few fallen televangelists to prop up their otherwise weak arguments. Surely even an imbecile is aware that anyone could provide an endless list of dead or imprisoned individuals who worked at or patronized strip clubs, despite the fact that so many club supporters do their best to hide their filthy habits.

By Anonymous, at 11:08 AM
Anon 2:15 Pm. No. The criminal Dept. of the College of California at Santa Barbara has nothing to do with strip clubs. They conduct Studies, like this one. Which proves the Secondary effects false. They study was given to them to conduct, and that was it. a 5 year study.
The fact is, anti club folk do not like it, because it proves them wrong, so of course they will say "they were paid off" or "They must like strip clubs" Anything to deny the fact in front of them. They do not want to believe it

I understand, you live in denial.

By Anonymous, at 8:47 AM
yes 1108 but those people were not holding themselves up on a pedestal claiming they were holier than thou
then doing the same things they told others not to do, ie hypocrites.

By Anonymous, at 12:13 PM
Wrong 8:47 a.m., You are in denial and this is why. If you seriously believe that a strip club location and behavior is limited to a designated area and retained within its walls respectively, you are sadly mistaken. I am not going to be redundant by itemizing secondary effects. You already know what they are. Your decision not to believe them is very likely swayed because you have not been a victim of them and could not care less that anyone else has been victimized.
You have also assured us that you are not up on current events concerning colleges. Several prominent colleges are under scrutiny for the outlandish teachings and reports by bizarre professors. One particular case in point, a professor and his cohorts (forgot the identities), are trying to convince the public that 9/11 was an American conspiracy to blow up its own people. Can go without saying they have all kinds of "documented proof" and a published book. Ludicrous as it is, too many Americans are convinced the sinister plot was true. Unscrupulous as the govt. can be, that is too far-fetched, especially when it affected our own economy.
Your claim of being convinced there are no secondary effects as reported, you say, by CCSB, only serves to support your club-happy views, while keeping yourself in denial of the disastrous hard facts that have emanated from strip clubs.
At this time, I would like to point out another fact often rightfully mentioned on this board. If you are a club go-er, you choose to deny that objectification and exploitation of women is happening "in front" of you. You do not want to "believe it."

By Anonymous, at 6:48 AM
Anon 6:48 Feel free to call all the local law enforcements in the towns around us that have Strips clubs. Ask about the crime rates, then call the court house and inquire about the property values in those same areas. You will find that NONE of them have had an increased rate of crime, or loss of property value.
The main are around hear that is falling is downtown W-B, where there is no club of this sort.
You can preach all you want about the false hoods of secondary effects, but the truth is in the numbers in our own area. No secondary effects have happened in our area that has had these places for over 20 years.
The fact is the secondary effects it a myth, pushed out many times by right wing, and religious groups to gain support from comminutes. You speak of a prof. and his cohorts producing incorrect info, yet you so easily believe the 20 year old report of secondary effects (what is to say they were not questionable in their findings, Oh yeah you like those findings so that makes it ok), NONE have been done to prove them since that time. These "Hard facts" are outdated. The only other report that has ever been done on secondary effects (the one I pointed out) proved them otherwise.
Believe it.

By Anonymous, at 9:42 AM
8:47, I never heard of the College of California at Santa Barbara. Do you mean the University of California at Santa Barbara? Or is the College of California some rinky-dink buy-a-doctorate-cheap fly-by-night ripoff? I know some professors who will come up with research to support any conclusion you are willing to pay them for, but the fact remains that strip clubs are more likely to bring crime, drugs and prostitution to a community than make a positive contribution.

By Anonymous, at 12:36 PM

Mister Family.com ... keeping Northeast PA "family friendly."

Wednesday, October 25, 2006

Corruption of minors? You decide.

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