Mister Family.com ... keeping Northeast PA "family friendly.": Inside scoop

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Saturday, September 23, 2006

Inside scoop

"Gentlemen's Club 10 is covering up full-fledged sexual activity at their club (but they won't be able to cover it up for long)." A.R.

How much are their dancers doing when a customer pays for a "VIP"? What forms of sexual activity do you consider legal and lawful in the strip club context?

The comment board is open to those who have been e-mailing me with information. I don't get the impression that these people necessarily share my passion to rid our area of sexually oriented businesses, but they do have some very interesting claims to make about the club.

The comment board is open to these e-mailers or to those who would dispute their claims.

posted by Mr. Family at 7:51 AM

49 Comments:

  • Well, here's the summary:

    1. genital groping
    2. brief forms of oral sex
    3. a few other things that I don't think you'll let me post here, but that's enough irk you I'm sure

    Not all the ladies do this, but a few do. It just depends on how bad they want a tip.

    I'm not crazy about too many of the ladies here.

    Mr. Fam, I'm curious to know if you ever went to a place like this? What about in your younger days? Would you admit it if you had?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:22 PM  

  • Wow, my quote is your banner! I'm honored.

    Wait and see. When they get busted for this, remember that you heard it first from me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:32 PM  

  • don't be so naive

    miller

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:35 PM  

  • it's nice to know that you will publish any unfounded rumor or claim about the place-- if you want to fight the club do it honestly-- i guess you never heard of the of bearing false witness--.
    i think closing this club has turned into an addiction
    and robbed your of your self respect, honesty, integrity and decency you once had. I will pray for you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:45 AM  

  • 8:22 & 8:32 you are saying you know for a fact of these things? then the only way to know is to have participated since the supposed cover up happens in vip rooms. to make such a statement you would have to be 100% sure and have first hand knowledge. tell me who would openly admit this if it is true? you would be the type to go back for more so why bust your own bubble? more false comments

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:39 AM  

  • the club is covering up actual sex in their vip rooms

    they are erasing the comments of their customers on their review site

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:51 PM  

  • Wow. turned to slander now have we? This is a very bold statement to make. This is an accusation that needs proof, none of which you have. This comment alone may cause you some serious legal action agaiunst you.
    Rumors are rumors. And you seem to spread them more than a group of old ladies in a salon.
    Who is A.R.? You dont know. And of course no one knows you. Your accusations hold no water. A made up man posting made up stories.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:57 PM  

  • This article alone proves a point many have made time and time again. Mr.Family will sin, and do evil, if he feels it will hurt what he thinks is evil.
    He does not have proof of the posted allegations, so there for it is. gossip, and a rumor, both which are considered a SIN.
    You have proven you will go to any length to get what you want. No matter the cost or your own moral convictions. You have spread gossip, lies and untruths. You yourself are immoral.
    "Slander" is a word that has an interesting origin. It comes from the word “Devil.” According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, slander means “malicious talk; to spread damaging information; to defame; to speak ill of.” Is it no wonder where slander derives it’s name? Slander is the work of the Devil, and those who slander are on his team. In fact the Bible says that Satan is called the “accuser of the brethren” (Rev. 12:10)
    Gossips use their mouth as a weapon -- a weapon which is always aimed at people to fulfill Satan’s desires to “steal, kill, and destroy” (John 10:10)

    You have proven yourself, no better than those you attack. You are a sinful man Mr.Family. A religious addict who has forsaken himself in the lords name. You do evil to stop another. You are no better. Good day to you sir.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:07 PM  

  • I thought you might say that. Fortunately, I have the information from the review that Gentlemen's Club 10 removed from their site.

    I can't say I blame them for removing it seeing as it inadvertantly proved what we have suspected all along.

    Club 10 can deny the fact that their dancers are having different forms of sex with their customers, but the truth is getting out there .... straight from the mouths of their own customers.

    By Blogger Mr. Family, at 8:45 PM  

  • it happened

    it happens often, you just need to pick the right gal

    short, dark hair

    not a big secret

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:22 PM  

  • So, you got info from a web site, that has people posting info that again, you can not prove. Much like this web site. Oh yeah...that makes it better.
    Go to the site where the few ex dancer try to bash the club because they got fired. And are starting trouble.
    First you say that club goers are perverts and can not be trusted, but you will still take info from them when it may support your claims. Still spreading gossip and slander. Your faith is faultered.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:24 AM  

  • seems many a customer comes out smiling not because they saw naked dancers in there but surely because they had fun in the back room...Oh yes it happens.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:08 AM  

  • 4:07 p, I've read this article several times, and I kept coming up with the quote as being speculation at worst, not slander being spread by Mr. Family. And I kept coming up with Mr. Family's comments as giving room for the pro-clubs to legitimately deny any claims that are in the public, shall we say freedom of speech?
    Putting that aside, if you are a Christian who is quoting the Holy Bible, then where are you with your Holy Bible when it comes time to make the pro-club participants aware of lust, greed, adultery, lying, nudity, slander, turning away from God and bashing and blaspheming God? Those and more are ALL works of the DEVIL!!
    Where are you to tell them that the DEVIL has their souls in his clutches since it is obvious they act out and speak out against what is holy....AND with that, he is working through them and speaking through them?
    You used the Holy Bible to fulfill your own needs, while seemingly and purposely forgetting so many other souls who are on the MOST dangerous path of perdition and the direction can be changed NOW, according to the Holy Bible.
    Ever notice how quick it is for some of the pro-clubs to bash God, apparently even some not denying His existence, yet they never recognize any part of the devil as the source of all evil?
    Why is God bashed, but not the devil?
    It's all the devil's grand ILLUSION offering self love and glamour.
    If you would like to think that I am defending Mr. Family, go ahead, but then think how would I know about the more in-depth comments I just wrote. You MIGHT come to the conclusion that I my deep concern is for souls and hatred towards the devil and all his empty, harmful, destructive ways.
    God be with us all!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:06 AM  

  • do you mean the review from the national club listing where unhappy ex-empoyees and their friends post comments? yes, very reliable sources I must say. those comments are not valid they are just like here anonymous sources posting their views with no proof.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:49 AM  

  • To Mr.Family.
    So, you got the info from an anonymous sorce on a web page, the very page that has one boyfriend of an ex dancer (who was fired for not following rules) bashing the club and spreading rumors all over.
    Well, you and Gene belong together, you are both full of crap.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:03 PM  

  • Never in my life have I read more retarded comments than by pro10ers. It scares me knowing that I may share the road with some of you. Your brains are POS! Do the world a favor; sew your fingers together along with your mouths because you don’t deserve the right to communicate. Better yet, please don’t breed!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:29 PM  

  • 5:29 pm
    It is comments like these that make me realize the world is full of ignorant people.
    It is always the anti club folk coming off with violent and hateful remarks. Yes the club people have do toss bible quotes back at Mr.Family, it seems that many people, even some who do not go to the club, feel that posting pictures of people and trying to forcibly embarrass them is not moral (even those on the radio said this after talking with him). And they point out that his own morals are not in check. The he continues to spread gossip, unproven,and unreliable, yet he feels that to is ok since it will justify his means. You have heard none of the clubbers say that they are not in sin. Yet Mr.Family and friends are in sin themselves, buy justify it by pointing fingers at the clubbers.
    And like this guy. Wishing pain, telling others not to breed. This is the sounds of an intelligent man, I must tell you. The right to communicate? You have proven you do not deserve to be in this debate, because instead of posting a viable, or intelligent argument, you turn to violence. I hope you feel good when you go to church yourself this week.

    Here I always thought "do onto others" meant something. Instead of talking, most anticlub people fly off at the mouth with insults and you wonder why the club goers come here to bash you all. Even Mr.Family himself, he has been harsh and mean, tossing out insults, mocking people with comments, and you expect people to just stop going? You are making more people go to this club just to spite you. I thought the lord taught love, and to spread that love, even when others are not on your side, show them love and try to show them the way, not attack them. For that will only gather you enemies. But that I fear is far to late.
    Now I have made no harsh comments, just pointed out my views. Yet I fully expect, just because I go to the club on occasion, that some one will take a childish shot, or rude comment at me. But that its fine,you will only prove my point further.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:37 AM  

  • Quoted from first blog, 8:22 p.
    "Mr. Fam, I'm curious to know if you ever went to a place like this?What about in your younger days? Would you admit it if you had?"
    Not speaking for Mr. Family,
    I think that is an important question that could be answered with purpose and direction. Even if the intention was just idle curiosity for now, it could have some critical bearing later in life.
    My opinion: I would admit to it only in the event of being engaged to be married. I think my future spouse should know all about me in case anything surfaced later that would cause a problem.
    Other than that, when trying to leave it behind and build a good reputation, it's not necessary at all to brag about it or own up to it in general conversation...with discretion, only perhaps to help someone else out of the same situation who can be trusted not to smear your newly achieved reputation.
    Otherwise, it has no purpose. It was an experience that is best left in the past. No need to keep re-hashing it for present-day exploitation.
    If we all went around talking about our past, we wouldn't have much current conversation.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:03 AM  

  • Which retarded comments? The ones about Mr.Family getting info from anonymous sources that of a internet forum? That is not really retarded. It is an unreliable source. Plain and simple.
    Your comments are for more retarded. Sew some ones mouth shut? And they used to say the pro10ers were violent. The only violent comments I see are from the anti club people.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:04 AM  

  • reply to mr family
    so you are saying it must be true because they removed it? It is still gossip, slander, almost every religion conservative or liberal condemns gossip
    even if it against a perceived enemy. Christianity is about truth and mr you can not PROVE it is true.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:27 AM  

  • in re mr family
    mr family said info on gclub review so it must be true-- so if I post something on your site mr family does that mean its true? It is still gossip and slander, no good chtistian should be repeating it, if you believe it to be true call the police instead of spreading gossip, notice mr family not many of your followers are with you on this one.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:36 AM  

  • mr family can you say you are sure it is 100% true because you read it on a comment section. no you can not you are bearing false witness, lot of ministers agree with that

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:57 PM  

  • Here are some comments about this web site my LOCAL ministers in out AREA. These are not rumors, but quotes.
    Even those who work for GOD himself disapprove of Mr.Fmaily's tactics.

    "As a minister of the Episcopalian faith, I do not approve of Mr. Family actions. An innocent person could get hurt with the picture taking activity and gossip usually serves no one except Satan. Christians do not do things that can inflict harm upon one another."

    "I would say to this Mr. Family person: Talk this matter over with your church leader. It appears you are in need of spiritual guidance."

    "There are rare times when gossip is acceptable, but this is not one of those times."

    "I too share Mr. family’s desire to close the strip club. But not through the breaking of the commandments."

    "Reporting these accusations to the police isn’t gossiping. Putting it on a website definitely is."

    "Our church believes that one comes to Christ in free will. This website is trying to scare people to Christ through pictures and by saying things not proven to be true. One cannot get lower than the devil
    in order to beat him."

    More were said, from multiple men of the cloth. All disapprove of stripclubs, which is understandable, but ALL have the same opinion of Mr.Family, a so called "man of faith"
    that the way he has chosen to handle this battle is WRONG. Gee, where have we heard that before.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:25 PM  

  • Looks like you pro10ers just fell for 5:29PM's web.

    MICROPHONE

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:37 PM  

  • Here's some thoughts about the men of the cloth supposed quotes:
    Think of what questions were posed to them in order for them to naturally arrive at their conclusions.
    Example: Is gossiping Christian?
    A few address gossip, which has been totally limited to the PRO-CLUB stance in a lot of their comments. They also tried to cling on to slander.
    Need of Spiritual guidance? What was the question?
    Mr. Family lies, this, that, and the other thing, do you approve of him breaking the Commandments?

    Did the men go by someone's agenda or did they actually read the website in order to make their own conclusions that it might be just CONJECTURE all the way around?

    Take note: we know the supposed answers, but we don't know the questions.
    No quotes outright accused Mr. Family/website of gossiping or breaking the Commandments.
    Taking pictures is not forced, and it's a legal approach that is working. So what's the problem? If taking pictures is scaring people to Christ, that's a new one on me because they can ONLY come by free will pictures or not.

    "Even those who work for GOD Himself disapprove of Mr. Fmaily's tactics."
    BTW, Mr. Family IS being guided by men of the cloth who work more closely with him in his efforts.
    Have a nice day, 3:25 PM!

    ps: it's a very sad effort indeed to protect that club so much, that one has to try to make such a pitiful attempt.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:00 AM  

  • Seems the church community doesn't care for Mr.Family. makes you think doesn't it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:41 AM  

  • Mr. Family,

    I have a strong hunch that most of the negative comments you received on this post are from the same couple people. they're trying to stir up dissention among your supporters by now claiming that you don't have the support of the faith community.

    I'm sure you are wise enough to realize that's boloney. We continue to appreciate your efforts and I am personally amazed that you have stuck with this for so long.

    In the end you will win.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:13 AM  

  • It is not a pitiful attempt. These are words of ministers in our area, who were pointed to the website. And the actions of Mr.Family. You choose to follow an anonymous man, who is ashamed of his own actions.
    If he is working so closely with men of the cloth, they must also be in need of guidance, as gossip is still the work of the devil.
    And forcibly trying to embarrass people in public is not a moral act. No matter how you try to justify it.
    I myself do not care for the club, but this site is not better for it's actions.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:16 AM  

  • It is not baloney as you say. many believe him to be a fraud, ALL of the local media, and now it seems many of the local area ministers. The ministers agree with his idea to close the club, but not his methods, as his methods themselves ARE immoral. You can deny it all you want, or try to justify it, he is no better than the people he is trying to stop. Immoral is immoral.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:13 AM  

  • well the minister's comments are on a website so it must be true. isn't that what mr family is saying about the gclub?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:08 PM  

  • to 7am gossip is gossip and against christian teaching
    mr family should lead by example and he isn't--
    what you are saying it is ok for christians to gossip does mr family know for a fact what was reported is true NO!
    If you do not know it is true--it is bearing false witness. How does that mr family a better christian to do this? How about reporting it to the police
    if you are so sure it is true?
    about the pic-- one minister said innocent people could get hurt by the pics. Is that hard for you to understand? Christians are not suppose to hurt innocent people by their actions.
    AGAIN LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:18 PM  

  • A quick quiz
    1. when are biblical quotes used (abused) to try to give approval to evil?
    2. when do major sins become minimized over minor sins?
    3. when is religion used all of a sudden to try to justify when otherwise it is scoffed?
    4. when is the word "immoral" used when not speaking of themselves?

    Answer to all four: when the clubbers say so.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:42 PM  

  • to 7am how can mr family preach the gospel when he cannot keep the commandments?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:01 PM  

  • Mr. Family you should be happy to hear that the attendance at Club 10 is lessening and the overhead is still very high. It's all economics and the scale is tipping to the left now.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:33 PM  

  • You pro 10ers would be happy if Mr. Family went to the club to see for himself? Why would he want to do that? So he he could see this crap first hand?
    Let me tell you about Mr. Family since Ive known him since he was a baby and NO Im not his mother. He has led a good, clean life ALL his life and continues to do so. He has more class in the tip of his finger then most of you pro 10ers have in your whole body. And while I am a Christian, I can only say that we all have to live with ourself in the end. Its your choice to go to these places and disrespect either your wife or your girlfriend and if your not married well the dancer herself. And yes I know NO ONE forces her to dance....if all you respectful men stopped going we wouldnt have this problem now would we. I feel bad for the fellas who married the wrong women that they are not satisfied by them. It is truly sad. I must be one of the lucky ones.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:46 AM  

  • I volunteer at my church on Tuesdays and stopped by my pastors office. I asked him what he thought of Mr. Family and he said, "He's doing a good thing. I frequently pray for his success."

    I also asked him what he thought about the comments of Mr. Family's critics. He looked at the website and said, "This is a sorry attempt to make good intentions look bad. This is a common tactic used by those who feel backed into a corner or those who feel exposed for doing something wrong."

    I just thought I should contribute these comments to this blogpost since these words came from a face to face conversation with an actual pastor.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:46 AM  

  • to 846 am perhaps your minister should send his comments to that other website- good christians can disagree or is it they are not good chritians if they do not agree with you?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:51 AM  

  • to 546 am i am glad you know mr family and were able able to provide an unsolicted unpaid testimonial for him, but you do not know me-- and to say i have no class because i disagree with mr family-- well I guess it is just another example of your brand of christianity.
    Is stooping to name calling going to make mr family look better? Call Extreme Makeover, they can help.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:57 AM  

  • to 546 am I am glad you know mr fmily and were able to provide this unsolicted unpaid testimonial for him.
    But you do not know me--do you? And to say I have no class because I do not believe Christians should gossip and disagree with mr family is-- well I suppose it is your brand of religion. Does name calling make mr family look better in your eyes? I suppose so.
    and 1242, funny when one of your own braks the commandments, instead of addressing the issue you try to hurl blame at the other party. That is typical, but it just doesn't work.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:04 PM  

  • 8:46 AM, AMEN to that! 7 AM here, and that is EXACTLY my beliefs. They try to MANIPULATE and say anything when feeling backed into a corner, etc.
    to 12:18's quote to me "what you are saying is it is ok for christians to gossip" No, you PREFERRED to interpret it that way. Conjecture is not gossip. Gossip means to intentionally and wrongfully malign someone's HONEST integrity with the person specifically named and sometimes known, or pointed out to others.
    Now review Mr. Family's commentary WITH the quote, and see if you can apply any of that criteria. Careful! It will cancel out the rest of your argumentS...UNTIL we get to the part of the picture takers. Is it so hard for you to understand that the pic taking is done solely on a VOLUNTEER, not forcible basis by ADULTS?...who can get hurt on the way to work or shopping? Does that make their (Christian) employers or store managers responsible? Give the pic takers some credit for having a brain instead of the flimsy argument that the patrons are being embarassed. If they were conscientious at all, they (the patrons) wouldn't even be there to be seen by others inside the building! Plus, their cars are in an open lot to begin with! So what part of embarassment do they have?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:30 PM  

  • My next topic: "follow an anonymous man" No, myself and other anti-clubs are following our own highly cherished morals and values, which were taught to us, ABSORBED, and are APPLIED in our own lives, gathered from different areas of KNOWN people and circumstances in our lives. We form our own conclusions from knowledge and experience that were passed on to us from any or all of family, clergy, teachers, and any other upright people who knew the difference between right from wrong, as well as from our own knowledge and experiences, which proved to us right and wrong.
    It doesn't matter who Mr. Family is. This CAUSE is a reflection of the morality WE believe in. The CAUSE is known to us, our morals are known to us, and we are true to ourselves...that is all that matters.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:01 PM  

  • 12:04p and aren't you just typical of helping the clubbers twist the truth. typical of using the uneducated religious argument that doesn't work.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:24 PM  

  • to 1230pm-- according to th american family council-- an organization, mr family has a link on his wensite to --"gossip is speading a story you are not 100 % is true and mr family is not sure what he repeated is true, yes it is that simple,
    funny how you try to make excuses, conjecture has quite a different meaning.
    " gossip distorts and exaggerates, and is never a reliable source of truth."
    Mr family said himself these clubbers were a godless bunch of people then why quote them as truth if one feels that way. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
    As har as the pic takering goes, what happens if a pic taker gets attacked or in some kind of accident? is mr family going to take care of them? That is one of many issues about people getting hurt. Suppose a pic taker has a vendetta against someone and digitally alters the licence plates. it can be done, i have photoshop and
    other prgrams and could do it quite easily, with a pic taken at the gclub and you would never know it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:49 AM  

  • Anon 12:30 pm.
    All the anti club people talk about manipulation, when it is a fact Mr.Family has done that very thing over and over again.
    And also, the name calling comes from the anti club side. It is great to see that you know all the people who go to adult clubs so well, I grantee you know someone in your life, you think know to be a good person, and they have gone or still do to these clubs.
    Do not judge without knowing a person face to face. but then again, that is what this site is all about, judging others and calling them degrading names without knowing them.
    That's the Christian way!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:31 AM  

  • To 9:16 a, 10:13 a, 12:18 p, 11:57 a, & 12:04 p,
    Taking into consideration that you may have been following this website campaign for a certain amount of time, and since, as Christians, you are obviously disturbed about this so-called gossip issue, on the level, why did you not voice your outrage when the Holy Name of God and Christianity in general was being degraded, to say the least?
    As Christians, shouldn't that have disturbed you more than anything?
    As you can see, Mr. Family presented "Their view of the Church," which was only a handful of diabolical outbursts, long past and some not so long ago.
    If you respond, would you kindly identify your time. Thank you.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:32 PM  

  • 5:49, since you are obsessed with having such care for other people, riled up about gossip and the pic takers, then why have you put a limit on it by eliminating the consciousness of destructive behavior to self and others with the club crowd?
    What is your definition of conjecture?
    Suppose a patron gets hurt en route to the club? Suppose marriages go on the rocks, patrons spend money that could have been used for family purposes, kids go without, lives are ruined, etc., etc., etc., is the owner going to take care of them?
    If you truly cared about Christian values or societal issues, those also would be a part of your main priorities.
    Funny how you make limited excuses in order to justify so many other vastly critical or inexcusable potentials, especially when the complete goal of the club is money! That is what you are actually defending!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:02 AM  

  • to 932 pm you forgot one things christians are suppose to lead by example
    and here we have our leader gossiping-- that is the issue.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:31 AM  

  • Two things you have proven, 5:49. One, your STUBBORNESS which is indicative of being narrow-minded. "CONJECTURE: the FORMATION of an OPINION without sufficient evidence for proof." (Note: nothing specifically about A person; the comments are AMBIUGUOUS.) Anyone can give an OPINION without sufficient evidence for proof. Now here's your chance to prove gossip: who, what person, or person known or vaguely known or pointed out had their reputation maligned?
    Two, your PRETENTIOUS attitude towards the pic takers that insults their capabilites, integrity, and responsible natures.
    Could that be a note of jealousy for the integrity they have as pic takers since you yourself are also involed in photography AND have ALLUDED to them possibly altering the pics?
    6:31am, our leader? Sorry, the issue remains gclub.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:52 AM  

  • Get ready for me to straighten you out, 6:31am. "Manipulation" is a word that "I" used, not did "all the anti club people."
    Your memory CONVENIENTLY only serves you to one side. Think about, it or shall I compose a list of name-calling by the club side that will make you EAT your words?
    Quote me EXACTLY where I said I knew all the people who go to that club.
    I believe ALL people are good.
    You have ALLUDED that I judge people without knowing them face to face. Darling, I DO NOT judge anyone. Your STATEMENT is ASSUMPTION. (See that, I could have called YOU a LIAR)

    You ALLUDED to knowing the real Christian way. By all means, take the platform, and tell me what you know about Christian beliefs in respect to sins of the flesh, money/greed, brotherly love, the concept of hell, and what judgement REALLY is.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:53 PM  

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