Mister Family.com ... keeping Northeast PA "family friendly.": Proposal

Wednesday, July 12, 2006

Proposal

I have a proposal to make...

For a month or so, supporters of Gentlemen's Club 10 have been regularly claiming that I am somehow affiliated with Jules Greenberg (sp?), the owner of the Carousel and Cabaret. Their belief is that I am only upset about Club 10 because it creates competition for Mr. Greenberg's clubs. (I also believe they are doing everything they can to try to draw the focus off of their den of iniquity).

Here's my idea. If you really believe that I am a supporter of Mr. Greenberg's businesses, then do me this favor. Drive by his clubs. Take a picture of the cars parked at either the Carousel or Cabaret, and e-mail them to me. Make sure the building is visible in the background so I can determine if they are genuine. Please remember to avoid taking the pictures while on private property. It is legal to take pictures from a street or sidewalk, but not legal to take pictures while on private property.

If your pictures are genuine, they will be posted. I'm looking forward to seeing how much you really believe that deep down, I'm secretly a strip club advocate.

Timeline of Criticism:

1. Mr. Family doesn't have pictures posted. (stopped when pictures were posted)
2. Those pictures could have been taken anywhere. (stopped when building was shown to be visible in the background and when people admitted that their cars were indeed there)
3. Mr. Family makes money from his website counter. (stopped when I explained to the club supporters how a free counter works)
4. Mr. Family works for Jules Greenberg. (let my willingness to post pictures of his patrons answer that criticism)
5. Mr. Family is going to shut down Gentlemen's Club 10. (actually, this rumor is completely true)

51 Comments:

You're not Mr. Greenberg. You're Rev. Marty Garms in the East End section of Wilkes-Barre. So how are you doing Marty?

By Anonymous, at 4:34 PM
hi mr. family
or should i say "jules"??? :)

i was "surprised" (again) to find out that you are jules or you are associated with him. probably almost as "surprised" (again) as you are! :)

that one has always been my personal favorite. :)
i still get a chuckle every time i remember your come back the first time around: "clearly, i own a strip club. that is why i am against them." :)

the website counter is my next favorite where you are making million$. gosh, since the clubbers believed that, then they should have gotten their own websites with counters and make million$. :)

as always, keep up the great, great work, and thank you for doing it!

By Anonymous, at 4:54 PM
I know who Rev. Garms is. I appreciated what he said in the paper about this effort, right around Easter time. I even attended a musical presentation at his church back in Spring 2004.

I would be honored to be associated with him. Unfortunately, for me, I am not Rev. Garms.

By Mr. Family, at 5:10 PM
5. Mr. Family is going to shut down Gentlemen's Club 10. (actually, this rumor is completely true)

Not even close

By Anonymous, at 7:14 PM
Mr. Family if you work to shut down all these BYOB clubs down in our county then we feel your mission will become much more creditable. People on here keep asking you to please, please get something going with the news media, with the county elected officials, with the voters, why are you not listening? Why only concentrate on one club when there are several promoting the same lewd business in respectable communities that don't want them there? Let's get people involved and let's get moving, start getting all these placed closed. Thank you for your efforts.

By Anonymous, at 8:00 PM
Mr. Family if you work to shut down all these BYOB clubs down in our county then we feel your mission will become much more creditable. People on here keep asking you to please, please get something going with the news media, with the county elected officials, with the voters, why are you not listening? Why only concentrate on one club when there are several promoting the same lewd business in respectable communities that don't want them there? Let's get people involved and let's get moving, start getting all these placed closed. Thank you for your efforts.

By Anonymous, at 8:01 PM
Here are a few stats about the porn lifstyle. Seems even the people preaching like the adult industry. (if you post this)

* In 2000 Christianity Today survey, 33% of clergy admitted to having visited a sexually explicit Web site. Of those who had visited a porn site, 53% had visited such sites “a few times” in the past year, and 18% visit sexually explicit sites between a couple of times a month and more than once a week.

* Out of 81 pastors surveyed (74 males 7 female), 98% had been exposed to porn; 43% intentionally accessed a sexually explicit website
National Coalition survey of pastors. Seattle. April 2000

* In March of 2002 Rick Warren’s (author of the Purpose Driven life) Pastors.com website conducted a survey on porn use of 1351 pastors: 54% of the pastors had viewed Internet pornography within the last year, and 30% of these had visited within the last 30 days.

* A 1996 Promise Keepers survey at one of their stadium events revealed that over 50% of the men in attendance were involved with pornography within one week of attending the event.

By Anonymous, at 8:11 PM
hi,again,mr.family,

can you give me a hint as to who you are going to be tomorrow before anybody else tells you who you are? :)
or can i say that you are Elvis! :)

whoever you are, you are greatly appreciated!

By Anonymous, at 8:23 PM
5. Mr. Family is going to shutdown Gentlemen's Club 10. How are you going to do that? Please explain to all of us. You shouldn't get your supporters hopes up.

By Anonymous, at 8:33 PM
Rev. Garms probably isn't as cowardly as you.

By Anonymous, at 8:35 PM
Mr Family how long before you shut down club 10, you've been on this crusade for several months and they are still doing well, matter of fact all the clubs in the County are doing well It's been said if your on a mission achieve your target in as little time as possible. The military teaches to search and destroy and get to the next mission in the least time as possible. So get going because you have many more clubs to challenge after this one.. Mr. Family don't have your crusade become a theatrical production. Get the Mission done and get on to the next club.

By Anonymous, at 2:01 AM
We who advocate the closing of gclub10 could also speculate as to the identity of those who claim to be patrons. I've always assumed that ignorant remarks are contributed by college boys who have actually been there, but I've also concluded that many comments defending the club are the work of lawyers and others who have a VESTED interest in its profits. As long at it exists, I will continue to speak truth to power in my personal efforts to shut it down.

By Anonymous, at 5:13 AM
4. Mr. Family works for Jules Greenberg. (let my willingness to post pictures of his patrons answer that criticism)
Maybe if you came out people would not wonder and make these accusations. You must be hiding something. And the only way to prove your not is come out from behind the monitor

He is sellign the Cabaret. So of course he wont care when you post pictures of his (your) club.

By Anonymous, at 5:59 AM
Here is a copy of the letter I posted on his website:

Mr. Family,

Some Issues you might consider praying about:

1. all the people dying from the AIDS virus.

2. Our Troops in Iraq.

3. The resolution of conflicts in Israel, Northern Ireland, Kashmir, and Darfur.

4. Terrorism.

5. World Hunger.

6. Global Warming.

7. The outsourcing of American Jobs. (Especially from NEPA)

8. The erosion of American civil liberties.

9. Nuclear Proliferation, and

10. The rising cost of health care.

People all over the world are suffering and dying, and your major concern is that some law abiding taxpayers might see a boob. To think that God is going to answer your prayers about a strip club, while ignoring prayers about these and countless other dire issues shows how big of an ego maniacal person you really are. Get some priorities.

Also I know that you are completely aware that there are zealots on the internet that are capable of stalking and perpetrating violence against the people who’s license plates you post on your website. When people stop going to this place because they do not want to be subject to a potentially dangerous invasion of their privacy, don’t be fooled into thinking you have shamed them.

Have some decency and take down the dangerous pictures on your site and engage in an intelligent debate with those you disagree with.

By LeftyYarr, at 6:31 AM
Mr. Family,

Some Issues you might consider praying about:

1. all the people dying from the AIDS virus.

2. Our Troops in Iraq.

3. The resolution of conflicts in Israel, Northern Ireland, Kashmir, and Darfur.

4. Terrorism.

5. World Hunger.

6. Global Warming.

7. The outsourcing of American Jobs. (Especially from NEPA)

8. The erosion of American civil liberties.

9. Nuclear Proliferation, and

10. The rising cost of health care.

People all over the world are suffering and dying, and your major concern is that some law abiding taxpayers might see a boob. To think that God is going to answer your prayers about a strip club, while ignoring prayers about these and countless other dire issues shows how big of an ego maniacal person you really are. Get some priorities.

Also I know that you are completely aware that there are zealots on the internet that are capable of stalking and perpetrating violence against the people who’s license plates you post on your website. When people stop going to this place because they do not want to be subject to a potentially dangerous invasion of their privacy, don’t be fooled into thinking you have shamed them.

Have some decency and take down the dangerous pictures on your site and engage in an intelligent debate with those you disagree with.

By LeftyYarr, at 6:33 AM
aaron 007, why are you wasting your time advocating for a strip club that is, according to its supporters, not worried about closing down? If you have the time to enumerate all those issues that you feel should take priority, why aren't you doing something about them yourself? If Mr. Family's posting of LEGALLY OBTAINED photographs causes gclub10 to close down, I could care less whether it's the result of fear or shame on the part of the degenerates who hang out there now!

By Anonymous, at 3:20 PM
It is clearly obvious that the only blogger's comments that contains all the attributes of wisdom, insight, foresight, and REALITY among all the above comments was presented by 5:13. (Please scroll up and check it out).
I easily agree with that person that the club supporters' ignorant comments are submitted by (some) college boys and by lawyers who have a vested interest in gclub10. Being that the case, so much said for high degrees of education, pre and post graduation. If I were them, I would ask for a refund on my tuition and look for any menial job. That way they wouldn't have to try to exert any irrational thoughts that cost them a fortune to obtain a diploma.
I would also like to add that the rest of the commenters who support the club or who mock this campaign's efforts are clearly coming across as if they are definitely cornered and scratching the walls, reaching out with any kind of bizarre speculations while they are desperately trying to sound intelligent at the same time.

By Anonymous, at 5:33 PM
Before you get innundated (yeah, right) with all those pictures, Mr. Family, let's fill in the time with some fun...oh, with "facts" of course! Better than reading all those pro-club rantings with the strange and some totally unrelated perceptions, right?

Ok, now. I agree with the blogger who (jokingly) said that you would have to be Elvis.

The reason for your anonymity is because you don't want to be hounded by all those autograph seekers.
Fact: throughout the years, there have been eye-witness sightings of you. Some of those eye-witnesses would also have to have been gclub supporters who have also probably had alien sightings.

In keeping with your lavish lifestyle, you own a lot of strip clubs in Las Vegas where you became synonymous for your great entertainment.
Fact: since you don't want any competition, you decided to close down all the strips clubs in the country. You randomly chose gclub to start with.

Due to your celebrity status, you post pictures of cars on your website because you want everybody to know what it is like to be a celebrity...well, at least their cars.
Fact: you were well known to own a super Cadillac that was often photographed.

You made a lot of movies and played different characters.
Fact: so it would only make sense that you would be accused of being different people, such as Jules, an employee of a massage parlor, and even a Rev. (no disrespect to the Rev. intended)

We have a lot of time to fill in with fun, but until I think of more things as to why you are Elvis, I'm already convinced, aren't you? LOL

By Anonymous, at 6:36 PM
633, let's start an intelligent debate.....just you and me.

how do you know what mr. family prays for and what he doesn't pray for?
how do you know what prayers God answers and doesn't?
how do you know that mr. family doesn't have any other priorities?

with your logic, i guess it is fair to say that you are praying for and involved in all those concerns you mentioned.

how do you know that mr. family is completely aware of zealots on the internet...etc.?

how do you know that people have stopped going to that place bec they do not want to be subject to a potentially dangerous invasion of their privacy?

i don't know, but the thought of pictures on the w/s seems to disturb you more than terrorism.

i would like to have an intelligent debate with you, but anyone who seems to know what prayers God distinguishes to answer, and who knows about everything else as well, you are parallel to describing the delerius outbursts of untreated psych unit patients with a manical ego.

(no offense whatsoever meant to psych patients who are being treated for a condition that they have no control over.)

By Anonymous, at 7:09 PM
Mr. Family,

What is it like to wake up every morning and look in the mirror and see the Coward of Luzerne County?

Mr. Billy

By Anonymous, at 8:35 PM
First let me say that I appreciate the honesty from anonymous 3:20 who said,

--I could care less whether it's the result of fear or shame on the part of the degenerates who hang out there now!”--

I also think that this illustrates my point about why it’s important that these pictures be taken down. It sends the wrong message to kids when we adopt a message of “the ends justify the means.” Is that what you want to achieve? A community that shuns entertainment that you find unacceptable out of fear of reprisal? For you, the answer is “yes!” Very Scary.

7:09, I’ll take this point by point.

--how do you know what mr. family prays for and what he doesn't pray for?--

Obviously, I do not know what he DOESN’T pray for. However, there are many different places on this site where “Mr. Family” encourages people to pray for the closing of this club, if you think that prayer works and that you can effect change through prayer then I think you are obligated to prioritize your requests from God.

--with your logic, i guess it is fair to say that you are praying for and involved in all those concerns you mentioned.--

Unfortunately, I have come to grips with the fact that I cannot persuade God to bend the earth to my wishes. My point isn’t that every breath a person takes needs to spent addressing the great problems of our time, it’s that if you possess the power to convince, God, a genie, or whatever, to give you what you want, then you ought to ask for something important.

--how do you know that mr. family is completely aware of zealots on the internet...etc.?--

Because he is not stupid.

--how do you know that people have stopped going to that place bec they do not want to be subject to a potentially dangerous invasion of their privacy?--

I don’t know that ANYBODY has stopped going for this or any other reason. However, if people stop going because they feel threatened it doesn’t mean you have convinced them of anything. Also, I thought that Christians were supposed to try to save souls, threats virtually ensure that those people will never see your point of view.

--i don't know, but the thought of pictures on the w/s seems to disturb you more than terrorism.--

Those pictures ARE terrorism.

--i would like to have an intelligent debate with you, but anyone who seems to know what prayers God distinguishes to answer, and who knows about everything else as well, you are parallel to describing the delerius outbursts of untreated psych unit patients with a manical ego.--

So you are saying that because I think praying about a strip club is a waste of time I’m crazy? Take a look in the mirror pal.

By LeftyYarr, at 5:10 AM
ok, we give up mr. billy, tell us what's it like to to wake up every morning and look in the mirror and see the coward of luz. cty.?

By Anonymous, at 5:54 AM
to 3:20, it's unfortunate that my comments in the 5:33 blog came after your great blog to aaron (unknown to me at my writing)
You also brought up EXCELLENT points with wisdom, insight, foresight, and REALITY!

With such other extremely important issues, yes indeed, why would aaron be wasting his time...supporting degenerates. Doesn't say much for aaron's priorities.

By Anonymous, at 6:14 AM
Mr family should explain to his followers why the news media will no longer cover his endeavors. The news media do not consider him credible. You owe us an explanation, Mr family.

By Anonymous, at 8:12 AM
You miss read Arrons post Anon 6:14 am. He is talking about the fact there are far more important things in this area that need attention other than a strip club.
I had made a comment after Arrons in regards to some thing he mentioned, but it got left out, as many post do that Mr.Family doesn't want anyone to see.

By Anonymous, at 9:16 AM
aaron, i really would like to have an intelligent debate with you, but once again your replies defy traditional logic.
just for one example, you should consider yourself fortunate, not unfortunate that you have come to grips that you cannot persuade God to bend the earth to your wishes. i don't think anyone should believe they have the power to convince God. that would be trying to believe they have superiority over God.

bypassing all the rest of your moot points and dim views, i never said you were crazy because you think others pray about a strip club is a waste of time. this is where one of your dim views come in. if you look beyond your way of thinking, you will notice that there are real people involved with it who see nothing wrong with their own morality. now how do you think those other worldly situations arose if not from people who lack respect for themselves and for others, the spread of AIDs, terrorism, the conflicts, the greed?????
there happens to be prayers that are inclusive of all that you have mentioned, so therefore, all are priorities to those who pray.

By Anonymous, at 10:39 AM
To Mr. Family and his supporters:

Live and let live.

Mr. Billy

By Anonymous, at 11:24 AM
Moving right along, Mr. Family, isn't it odd that none of us anti-club campaign supporters asked how you intend to close down the strip club as was questioned by an earlier an blogger?
And isn't it odd that none of us asked you for an explanation of why the news media no longer carries your endeavors as another blogger questioned?

Well I think I can answers those questions.

It is not important for us to know how Mr. Family will close the club down because we know that it will be done with the utmost integrity.
So we don't need to question integrity.

If anybody knows anything about the news media, the news media does not constantly carry the same local sagas day after day, month after month like a soap opera.
So Mr. Family owes us no explanation.

No doubt both questions were asked by a club follower and a club supporter because we were referred to as "your supporters," and "his followers."

By Anonymous, at 11:24 AM
9:16 am Let's put it this way: perhaps you wrote something that none of us wants to see like profanity, bigotry, slanders against religious beliefs, a whole array of inappropriately worded comments.
Oh we certainly know all those types of thoughts and feelings exist, but we would rather not have it be encouraged or given approval on this site.
We thank you, Mr. Family, for your appropriate choices; and we are aware that you pass a lot of degrading comments otherwise only for the sake of fairness.

By Anonymous, at 11:40 AM
hey aron half way thru your rebutal my eyeballs started spinnin......you lost....weak rebutal.......retracts.....opinionsnot basis

By Anonymous, at 1:30 PM
A late but gentle reminder that prayers are being said today, Friday at 7pm as we unite together in spirit.

Our atheist friends are very welcome to join us in thought at that time or whatever is customary.

Everyone, club advocates and non-club advocates, are welcome to join us.

No one is excluded.

Thank you.

By Anonymous, at 1:54 PM
I'm glad you appreciate my honesty, Aaron, but you didn't answer any of my questions. Instead, you launched into an unconvincing diatribe regarding my flippant remark about not caring whether people stop going to gclub out of fear or shame. I said nothing like "ends justify the means" because if I subscribed to that ideology, I 'd stoop to illegal means to close that dive rather than wasting my time here on thick-headed bozo's who aren't clear on the concept. But then I'd be no better than the lowlife scum that sneak strip clubs into decent communities.

By Anonymous, at 2:49 PM
The nes media has stopped
ANY STORIES about MR FAMILY because he chooses to remain anonymous. The news media do NOT CONSIDER him a credible source because of that, no more MR FAMILY in the local media. Without continuing news coverage, people will forget about the issue and patronize the club. Mr family's crusade would be more effective if he went public,by not doing so, he is shooting himself in the foot. People are wondering if Mr Family still exists.

By Anonymous, at 6:25 AM
hi, 249pm, i get the feeling that aaron is under the false impression that we are having an intelligent debate with him. as you and i know, in order to have an intelligent debate, neither party should rely on conjectures as aaron has consistently done.

don't feel bad, he conveniently skipped over a question or two of mine also. and the ones he did reply to was just more conjectures with some being in contrast to his own previous conjectures.
at this point, i think it would be reasonable to say that you and i have not entered into an intelligent debate with aaron, but have simply posed questions to him to which he has taken the opportunity to twist our questions to suit his conjectures.
i wouldn't even classify that as any kind of debate, but merely nothing more than a club advocate voicing his misguided views under the guise of a "debate."
your thoughts.

By Anonymous, at 8:35 AM
No wondering about it, Anon. 6:25 AM, "Mr. Family" always will exist as long as there are people who believe in decency. So if you want to see "Mr. Family" in public view, then look at the next decent person who you come across.

Personally, I am more inclined to want to know who the sex maniacs are and think that they should be put into the news medias.

Once again as it has been often stated on this website, who Mr. Family specifically is, is not important. It is the advocacy of decency that is important.

By Anonymous, at 3:22 PM
Hi 8:35, I think I've made my point with aaron. I'm just wondering when W-B Township is going to begin attempting to enforce the people's wishes regarding gclub10. Why is it still advertising itself as a byob with an age limit of 18? Seems to me the town council is either incompetent or dishonest to let this go on unaddressed. In either case, it's time for the people of W-B Township to take back their community and put someone in charge who can GET THE JOB DONE RIGHT.

By Anonymous, at 7:12 AM
hi,again, 7:12, i am a resident of wbt, and if you knew the mayor and council members as i do, there is no "seeming" about it. their major qualification is incompetence, and their honesty is highly questionable. and knowing them as much as i do, right from the very beginning i felt this whole matter was a good ol'boy situation.

a town council meeting only serves for the mayor and council members telling the people what they think the people would like to hear. in other words, bluffing us.

as far as putting someone else in charge in order to take back our community, with another serious circumstance that was not addressed, i was told that the mayor has the highest authority, and there is no one over him at all, not even the attorney general. imagine that, absolute authority. well almost needless to say, that was quite a surprise to me. i was under the silly impression that politicians work for the people, especially since we pay their salaries and self-imposed raises. but as we all know, they "work" for us only when they are campaigning. after that, they are untouchable and unreasonable. that is, until the brief interim of re-election time. as it stands now, the current mayor has a few years to go yet.

so unless they do what they are supposed to do, they really have much to answer for to us residents that they are not going to be able to worm out of it this time. they will be held up in shame whether they like it or not. and this is a very, very small town.

By Anonymous, at 11:13 PM
Well, I’m a single 55 year old NJ man who has been going to strip clubs for over 30 years. I don’t do drugs, never been arrested, work in the computer industry. I came to this site from the promotion on Club 10’s site and to Club 10’s site from a dancer I dance with in NJ. As far as God goes, I’m not sure I believe in the way the church teaches but there are things that science hasn’t resolved yet, so maybe. I do believe back in the day of Christ some very smart men decided to show people a path and the rewards of being pious to try to stem the ruthlessness and hopefulness of the day but there have been and still are too many deaths in the name of God. I don’t recall Jesus advocating the death of anyone that didn’t believe.
Anyway my beef is with your unwillingness to go to any club and see for yourself what goes on there. Someone had to go to Arizona to discover it was hot so you would ‘know’. Have you asked any of these people who have told you what goes on there if THEY have set foot inside? I’m not surprised that someone who thinks they know what the bible has to say about this would think they also know exactly what goes on inside Club 10. You would have so much more creditability if you personally witnessed it and no one would know who you are ( unless someone takes a photo of your car in the lot;) ).
Now I have never been to Club 10 but in my 30 years of going to clubs I have personally witnessed 2 sex acts between a client and a dancer. Does it ever happen, sure, is it rampant, not in 99% of the clubs. After all these ARE businesses and they don’t need real sex to make money. There is much more money in fantasy. If illegal activities take place, there are laws on the books but why do you believe you have any justification to tell another soul how to live their life or worse yet force them to live their life the way YOU think is best. Many tyrants have tried to do that in the past and they all were doomed as you will be.

By Anonymous, at 5:42 PM
5:42, my main problem with gclub10 is its location and the fact that it was forced onto the neighborhood through a technicality facilitated by either the dishonesty or incompetence of the town council. The strip club sits next to Luzerne county's main tourism draw, the arena. Most of the taxpayers and residents of the community are retired. They don't want their township to turn into a truck stop full of strip clubs, "massage" parlors and "adult" bookshops.

By Anonymous, at 6:14 AM
to 5:42 PM Please allow me to address the religious aspects of your comments, not in an argumentive way, but from a different perspective.
There are many, many things that science will never be able to prove. Mankind's knowledge is finite and will never be able to explain the mysteries of the universe, let alone the mysteries of spirituality.
Along the lines of "back in Christ's day, etc." there is a saying that goes: "times have changed; people have not." "Times" meaning so-called progressive(?) atmosphere. So we are nothing more than a continuation of the earthly times of Christ where among other things, ruthlessness and hopelessness still exists. Christ's teachings offers us that same hope today as it did 2,000 years ago. In fact, there is no "times" with God, for He lives in the constant "now." Due to our human nature, we define time.

You are very correct in saying that Jesus did not and does not advocate the death of anyone who does not believe. This is where the terrorists come in with their beliefs, which is wrong. However, they are only using their "religious" beliefs to promote their undercurrent of hatred towards the western world.

To my comprehension, the first chapter of the Bible (Genesis) clearly and unmistakeably addresses nudity. So no matter what one knows or doesn't know exactly about what goes on inside of gclub (or any other similar types of clubs), just that those places endorse nudity is clearly and unmistakeably not in sync with the first chapter of Genesis. So since gclub clearly advertises what they endorse, no one actually has to step inside to eye-witness in order to be credible. Gclub does the "talking."

It is not those who advocate biblical or moral teachings who would be doomed, speaking in a spiritual manner, for we (although admitted sinners)are striving for our Heavenly reward. Please, with an open mind, try to consider that we are extending our consideration, love, and care to their fellow brethen to have that same Heavenly reward to live as citizens of Heaven. In other words, no one is telling or making anyone live up to their own expectations. Please, again, with an open mind, (not implying that you are narrow-minded), we know that we are not perfect, but we are very aware that there is a Heavenly reward for those who are repentant and live according to God's will. So we might say that we are only trying to make others aware to which they may choose to believe or not. It is a firm, loving obligation on our part.

We are also aware that the ruthlessness, brutalities, and all the ill behavior here on earth is certainly not what we have to look forward to in the Heavenly Kingdom. We would finally be free of it, and we hope and pray for that for our fellow travelers on this earth. If not, we would be very, very selfish.
Thank you for your time.

By Anonymous, at 7:23 AM
to 5:42 PM, sorry, just thought of another comparison in the event you need "tangible" or "clearer" proof or whatever of the love and care that I spoke about.

Let's suppose that I took a long car trip, and on the way, I made a lot of wrong turns, which were so easy to make. Finally I got to where I intended.
Then I came across you (or anybody else who I don't know) who was planning on making that same long car trip. Knowing all the wrong turns I made, I would take the time to let you know how all too easy it was to go in the wrong directions, and hoped it would make your traveling nicer. I wouldn't be telling you what to do. It would still be your choice to disregard my well-meant information. I would only be making you aware.
Surely as a caring person, you would do the same for someone else if it were you and someone else in that same situation.

To care about other human beings is having love for them and concern for their well-being. In some occasions, perhaps having more love and concern for them than they have for themselves. That is how I see the Mr. Family campaign, his intentions, and my participation in it.

Now, whatever precious time I have alloted on this earth, I chose to use some of that time to extend my care to someone who I don't even know. Otherwise, I could have very well not have and been in my swimming pool on this exceptionally hot day or doing any number of things that need to get done. Again, thank you for your time.

By Anonymous, at 8:23 AM
Anon 7:23 am. Not all follow the bible. Genises has no part in this vast disussion. Your words are well spoken. And you did not slam those who go to the club, you spoke with manners and for that sir I will thank you.
But again, what of others who do not follow Jesus? many on this site repeat it over and over, and yes there are those who follow no religion who oppose the club.
There is no right or wrong here, this entire debate is all opinion, some like it some don't

By Anonymous, at 9:21 AM
to 723 am ie nudity,
you see nudity violates Genesis. Well the bible prohibits eating shellfish and pork, ( cloven hoof) so almost every restaurant here violates the biblical prohibitions. What about all the great works of art,
ie like the statue of David.
Nudity or endorsement of nudity as you, oh no, we have to destroy them all,
to keep everyone happy.
And let's not forget divorce is a sin accrding to the bible, so let's make divorce illegal, to stop all that sinning. It goes on and on.

By Anonymous, at 1:29 PM
1.29 what planet did you fall off?

By Anonymous, at 5:53 PM
to 1:29 to clarify: the Holy Bible, Genesis, first chapter, which is God's Holy Word says nudity is in violation of His Word.

I did not "say" or insinuate anything to the effect as if I personally made it up.
It's common sense that we do not go around naked, believer or non-believer.

However, with that comment and all the rest of your comments, I highly suggest that you see your clergy for guidance.
And I am very, very sorry that "nudity" was the only word that caught your eye. You totally overlooked Christ, love, care, fellow travelers, concern, hope, repentant, Heavenly Kingdom, and basically the whole beauty of God.

By Anonymous, at 3:50 PM
to 350pm--first the conversation was about
nudity
2nd the supreme court
has ruled that nudity and nude dancing idslegal
3rd did you know there are several nudist camps in our
area. Shall we take pics of their cars too?

By Anonymous, at 6:30 AM
350p...since you are expressing that you lack reading comprehension, follow me.

1...the initial blogger, 542p, expressed several categories of
comments and not only about nudity.
2...blogger 723a politely replied to 542a suggesting to be allowed to reply to 542s religious comments from a different view

3...542 mannerly replied to 723 and did not get bent out of shape

why are you??????

4...if you are so obsessed with nudity, try to take pictures of the supreme court judges dancing in the nude and being at nudist camps.
get back to us when you get those pictures.
meanwhile, im not going to be parachuting out of a plane just because other people do.

5...if you want to take pictures of peoples cars at nudists camps, go ahead.

By Anonymous, at 4:29 PM
to anon 429pm taking pics of cars at places where nudity occurs is Mr. Family's job or his delegates.

By Anonymous, at 2:22 PM
2/22 thank you for acknowledging decent people with decent intentions.

By Anonymous, at 5:02 AM
What is decent about taking pics of a persons at a nudit camp?

By Anonymous, at 12:14 PM
to anon 1214pm nothing decent I can think of.

By Anonymous, at 8:03 AM

Mister Family.com ... keeping Northeast PA "family friendly."

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